CensoredIn the last couple of days I’ve had the experience of having my comments censored (called failing to pass our moderators on some sites), which really means we don’t like you disagreeing with us.

My first experience was with the Huffington Post when a well know gentleman in the US wrote that a bunch of 747s attacked the Twin Towers on 9/11. When I sent a comment pointing out that there were no 747s involved in 9/11, my comment was censored as being derogatory towards the author. Well, stick my head in a bucket of molasses! Since when were facts derogatory? So now I know the Huffington Post honours reputation over facts.

My second censored entry was on Apple. After two months of frustration with their new Lion operating system that can’t find a wi-fi network or send an email, I vented my spleen on their community support forum. Within seconds, I was told rather impolitely that this was not the place to vent my spleen by a bunch of paid Apple policemen. Well pardon me, but where should I do it? The bloody Disney Channel? Get off your high horse and get real.

Don’t think you have any freedom of speech on the Internet. The same hyper-sensitive self protection police are alive and well. Censorship is alive and well in the form of the comment police. If it’s not what they want to hear, they censor it.

So have we really made any progress since the fall of the Wall and the Stasi?

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  • 02/10/2011 at 3:46 pm
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    I know for a fact that there is no longer any freedom of speech on the Internet. I belonged to a community that was tight-knit, that any disagreement and they banned you. After being flamed once for stating my thoughts and opinions, it became apparent I wasn’t welcomed. Fine.

    It seems the internet never left high school with all the drama.

    • 02/10/2011 at 3:55 pm
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      Dear Angela, Your comment has been scanned by our ‘Moderation Police’ and meets our criteria of absolute agreement. :)

  • 02/10/2011 at 4:05 pm
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    For some strange reason, I’ve never been kicked off a forum for my comments. I suppose I should feel neglected. My more common experience is to state my opinion and have someone go off on a rant about my attitude, plus half a dozen or so irrelevant topics. The latest variation questioned not only my attitude, but my mental health, and then complained that the forum needed people who would express themselves strongly and honestly. Uh, yeah.

  • 02/10/2011 at 4:26 pm
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    An internet site deleting your comment is not censorship, at least not in the way that your comment about “the fall of the Wall and the Stasi” implies. Censorship is conducted by state entities, and the vast majority of websites are run by private individuals. If someone sticks a political banner in your front yard, you can remove it – that’s what private property is about. The same applies to the internet.

    I’m not sure why you have any expectation of “freedom of speech” online at all, or why you think it’s being violated. You are completely free to start your own website and say whatever you want to on it, but when you go on someone’s site, they can moderate what is said there. HuffPo has no obligation to publish what you have to say, just like you have no obligation to read their articles.

    I agree that deleting opposing comments is a pretty juvenile move. It reveals a lot about the organization doing it. But it’s an issue of customer relations, not freedom of speech.

    • 02/10/2011 at 5:04 pm
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      Completely agree Nick. But then again I do like to get carried away. :)

      Your point about moderation of alternative opinions though is spot on. No company wants bad PR, but it does look really puerile when everyone is in love with a product or service that is known to be less than brilliant. Apple are the kings in this regard.

  • 02/10/2011 at 4:28 pm
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    I can’t even get into the Huffington post. It keeps redirecting me to their Canadian site, as if anyone wants to read about the antics of John Baird. What’s going on at the other site? Are they coordinating an invasion and don’t want us finding out?

    I bet they know about our ‘weapons of math instruction’.

    It was only a matter of time, we have a heck of a lot of oil. Can I say heck here or will my comment be moderated?

    • 02/10/2011 at 5:00 pm
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      I rarely moderate Andrew. Probably only a handful of times out of all the comments on here. Normally because of profanity, or an abusive anonymous comment. But they are few and far between. However, I never moderate comments that simply disagree or have an alternative opinion.

      • 02/10/2011 at 5:46 pm
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        I would have been surprised to hear otherwise Derek. The net should be about a free exchange of ideas. Site owners may have the right to moderate dissenting opinions but it just takes away from their credibility when they do so.

        Most large web presences have a definite agenda. Free speech is out there (and right here) but we have to work to find it.

  • 02/10/2011 at 5:29 pm
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    Hmm – I though ‘Big Brother’ was the baddy in George Orwell’s classic 1984 – apparently not.

    Standing by to be ‘moderated’ for the above Derek. Be gentle, only set your moderator on stun. :D

  • 23/10/2011 at 7:31 am
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    Walter E. Haas Search Google.com.Yes my comment are being subpressed because facts are pain to denial sometimes supporting TREASON.

    Has anyone realized that the elite and rich are going to use the 4 billion plus
    to make us equal to them.The play off is immigration and North American Union
    with illegal FED,and the CFR the secret govrnment ruling with the London bankers.
    They will make you slaves as in Haiti forever-Agenda 21 NWO.

    The CFR supports world government NWO and Dream Act.Funding to illegals for education which Governor of Calif has approve in part lately.

    Our congress supports the North American Union.They just approved trade agreement with Panama and Columbia for NAU.Trucking for NAFTA from Mexico
    through USA to Canada now in action.Lou Dobbs-You Tube

    Think of it.Education,knowledge can be bought cheap from third world.They only need west for its resorces to build up Asia,etc.Why pay you good wages when they can get them cheap the capitalist way supply and demand.This is the game in action.This is why immigration law is not enforced.

    As Gerald Celente says sheep going to the cleaners as slaves,and stupid fools.
    No i Am saying these things,but he also says like things.

    Bush,Obama have said NWO-CFR loves it and they run show USA.

    2 plus2 is 4.You can’t compete with over 4 billion people with open borders and no regulations with a fascist government unless you like the yoke.Donald Trump
    says USA in the dumps can be saved by regulation and industry USA.

    The FED is illegal,so the US Constitution is Null and Void-Ralph Epperson Catalog.com A1 S8 C17-JFK Exec.Order 11110 research.

    Please don’t be a slave as I don’t want to be one even if you do.Get out of sheepville.

    Walter E. Haas Search Google.com God Bless America

  • 24/10/2011 at 3:19 pm
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    Are You In A Crap Shoot:

    Greed -Nothing Is Forever by Derek Haines Oct 14 2011:

    My comments to this article indicate you are in a crap shoot,and Greed- Nothing Is Forever stands correct.

    My comments and references to article Greed-Nothing Is Forever! are provocative.
    Please read them,and then scream “I Am Not Going To take It Anymore”

    Walter E. Haas Search Google.com God Bless America

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